mojomark 2 hours ago

Since this seems to be focussed on the US economy, can someone (...anyone), explain how a country that is many tens of trillions of dollars in debt can afford to pay a UBI in lieu of buying down national debt?

It feels like someone who can't pay their home mortgage deciding to make a donation to a favorite charity.

  • ai_critic an hour ago

    There's an assumption there that buying down the national debt is an important goal. Reasons that one might not want to take that position:

    * Having debt helps keep a currency useful as a global reserve and store of value, with great soft-power benefits (though, honestly, the reverse is more true--being the reserve currency makes running up a debt easier).

    * Having debt helps keep us out of capital-W War, as it binds nations together financially--if we owe another country a sufficient amount, they have a vested interest in seeing it come back. (Incidentally, historically, this is a shaky assumption as well.)

    * Having a policy allowing for debt helps make re-investment in infrastructure and civilization-scale efforts more easy to accomplish.

    * Having a debt helps encourage inflationary currency policy, which (in moderation!) has knock-on stimulatory effects on the economy. Some minor inflation is good for helping to encourage people to spend rather than hoard.

    The more cynical take, of course, is: how can we not afford to pay UBI?

    * Is it cheaper to remove, retrain, or simply resupply folks who are otherwise economic unproductive?

    * Is it politically expedient to buy off the population whose only useful product is votes than to balance the budget?

    * People are upset about work and making rent today...creditors of the US are some distant threat, and it's unlikely any politician will be in-office when that bill comes due--why hold off?

    * We've spent more money on dumber things, what's wrong with this?

    I don't exactly agree with any of the above points (in either category), but it's not hard to imagine people who do.