SahAssar a day ago

How would you compare this to existing tools in the space like https://github.com/FiloSottile/age?

Seems like age has multiple implementations (rust, go), has a permissive license, a public specification (https://github.com/C2SP/C2SP/blob/main/age.md) and the spec/core implementation is developed by someone with a history with cryptography (I don't know if you do, but there is no indication or name attached to the repo).

While many things can be built as a hobby or learning project I feel like cryptography is one of those spaces where you should be clear if it is that and if it is not you need to expressively argue its bona fides up front.

  • ezcrypt 16 minutes ago

    age is definitely more mature, and as you say, it should probably say somewhere that ezcrypt is still a hobby project (albeit a serious one).

    Some motives (some of which may sound strange, but mattered to me):

      * Completely public domain.
      * Without any third party dependencies (not even openssl or similar).
      * Don't rely on a single cipher (low trust).
      * Extremely portable (should easily build for and run on anything from an M4 Mac to a Raspberry Pi to an old OpenWRT MIPS router with 32 MB RAM for instance).
      * Should be easy to use (e.g. no key management, unless you want to), and composable in standard Unix ways (pipes etc).
      * Security focused, obviously. E.g. software architecture-wise, minimize dependencies, properly manage files, processes and secrets, etc.
      * Personally: To learn and to build something that I trust.
    
    In a way: When the dust settles after the nuclear apocalypse, if you manage to dig out a C compiler, this is your tool. ;-)
forty a day ago

This seem to use home made cryptography, which is never a good idea. In particular it's not clear why this design with layered algorithms is needed, nor why it uses a non standard KDF.

Prefer using libsodium for the crypto, which has made sensible choices for you.

  • forty a day ago

    Also you are missing a MAC, which is also a bad idea

tptacek 21 hours ago

The code isn't especially easy to follow, but is this a cascade of Serpent, Twofish, ChaCha20, and AES, all in CBC except for ChaCha, without an authenticator? With its own stream construction, that doesn't stop truncation?

sevg 21 hours ago

Don't use this.

It's missing a basic building block: authentication.

Unfortunately, the author hasn't spent long enough researching cryptography. (Even the briefest of research would have made this mistake obvious.)

  • ezcrypt 2 hours ago

    Very good point!

    I have been planning to look into authentication. I didn't need it for my use cases, yet, but as you say that should be an integral part of any serious tool. I added a ticket: https://codeberg.org/ezcrypt/ezcrypt/issues/3

    In the meantime, signing and verification can be done separately, e.g. with ssh-keygen, although that is a bit inconvenient (which kind of defeats one of the key points of the tool).

voodooEntity 21 hours ago

I recently gave building a file encryption tool a shot myself ( https://github.com/voodooEntity/go-tachicrypt ) tho i didnt implement my own crypto to be fair.

I think its always good to dive into topics if you are actually interested and lets face it, the beginning of most of the big things nowadays started somewhere in a basement or a garage.

CarpaDorada 8 hours ago

Don't use cryptographic software from people refusing to identify themselves.

  • ezcrypt 2 hours ago

    This should be the top rated comment ;-) Sorry. I can't remedy the situation for you, though.

dist-epoch 21 hours ago

PSA: it should be obvious that it's a really dumb idea to use random new encryption tools from GitHub (sorry, author)

  • spease 21 hours ago

    > it should be obvious

    It should be, but a lot of developers don’t have formal security training, nor especially management which may end up selecting the contractors/developers and deciding on the technical approach.

    If it’s explicitly not production ready, it should probably say so up front, not advertise itself as “strong encryption”. However painful that may be.

everfree 20 hours ago

What’s the advantage over symmetric PGP encryption?

deknos a day ago

what does this provide which cannot be done with openssl, which is available for most systems?

  • cynicalsecurity 20 hours ago

    OpenSSL should not be used for encryption of files. PGP/GnuPG should.

    • tptacek 20 hours ago

      No, PGP isn't much better.

    • max_ 20 hours ago

      Why not?

      • tptacek 20 hours ago

        Last I checked, there's no authenticated encryption option in the OpenSSL CLI.

andrewmcwatters 15 hours ago

> Encryption is done in four layers.

What?

  • tptacek 14 hours ago

    It's a cipher cascade. (Don't build cipher cascades.)

    • ezcrypt 2 hours ago

      The idea isn't really to make the encryption stronger or to widen the key. It's a classical case of trust - if one cipher is compromised, there are others to cover for you. Also, I wanted to learn the different ciphers, and speed wasn't a top priority.